gjoe
10-08 06:46 PM
Though I don't agree with you on all that you said about the goverment and what I know about it, your approach was right in replying. I wish all the senior members had these qualities.
Coming back to horse and donkeys, you didn't read my post properly. The essence of the story was to convey everyone of the members can't do everything you ask them to do. A leader ( if you are in a managment postion making decision you will understand better what I am saying here) should know how to make best out of the group he has.
I would also thank whomever who brought my star color back to green :) after sometime in the red zone.
Again, you have this approach of "This should be done, that should be done" or "What is wrong with this...why not work like this to avoid waste and be more efficient etc etc".
I believe that you work for the Government. But I dont think you have talked to the government ever about fixing any of the issues. Big difference.
All the big brilliant ideas that we come up with, in our heads, are pretty much meaningless to administration and congress and they wont do it unless they have other reasons to do it.
You are like a person saying "What's wrong with doing assignment of visa numbers and then approving based FIFO..bla bla bla". Its like saying "What's wrong with passing electric current thru a tungsten filament in a glass ball of vaccum to create light". That is DIFFERENT from commercial production of electric bulb. That bridge - between and idea and its production - takes a lot of initiative and faces a lot of roadblocks.
I will give you an example, and since you work for Government, I believe you will understand this easily.
I was in a recent meeting with administration officials along with our lobbyist and 4 other IV members. One of the issues, that is purely and administrative issue and doesnt need congressional act is In country visa revalidation. Prior to 2002, St. Louis had an office where you can mail your passport for restamping after H1 extensions and dont have to travel out of country. We asked them why that cant be restarted.(just like your style of why this cant be done and why that cant be done, its so simple and makes so much sense...bla bla bla). You know what their reply was..."We dont have a problem in doing that, and the issue is not security. Its just that if we reject someone, that someone is already in USA and would drag the rejection thru an immigration lawyer, file motions for re-appeal and re-consideration, and take us to court...and we have to fight that and spend money from DHS coffers to do that. If we reject someone's visa stamp in Mumbai consulate, we dont have to worry about it as that someone cannot take us to court and its cheaper for us".
Now, WHO would have thought about that? You see what I am saying. Here we are, speculating that they stopped visa restamping in USA (St. Louis) because of security reasons. And the real reason is - An attempt by DHS to save money on litigation it would face from rejections. Could you have known or imagined that? And who would have found the answer from IV forums. If I had posted that question here on forums, would I ever know that? No. It takes effort just to know the answers to questions. And then it takes some more effort to suggest more solutions and answers to their concerns. And then some more effort to get it done once they agree.
Its very easy to sit in your cubicle and spin brilliant ideas out of your head and say "Why cant that happen?" and "Why cant this be done like that and like that?".
And all your ideas are brilliant and they all have answers too. But sitting on IV forums and posting brilliant ideas isnt worth a bucket of warm spit if you are not willing to go out, travel and talk to people in authority and run your ideas and requests with them.
And yes, talking about donkeys and horses, the problem isnt that I am expecting wrong things from the wrong animals. The problem is that donkeys expect to be treated like horses not because they can run fast like horses but because they think they can run as fast as horses.
Coming back to horse and donkeys, you didn't read my post properly. The essence of the story was to convey everyone of the members can't do everything you ask them to do. A leader ( if you are in a managment postion making decision you will understand better what I am saying here) should know how to make best out of the group he has.
I would also thank whomever who brought my star color back to green :) after sometime in the red zone.
Again, you have this approach of "This should be done, that should be done" or "What is wrong with this...why not work like this to avoid waste and be more efficient etc etc".
I believe that you work for the Government. But I dont think you have talked to the government ever about fixing any of the issues. Big difference.
All the big brilliant ideas that we come up with, in our heads, are pretty much meaningless to administration and congress and they wont do it unless they have other reasons to do it.
You are like a person saying "What's wrong with doing assignment of visa numbers and then approving based FIFO..bla bla bla". Its like saying "What's wrong with passing electric current thru a tungsten filament in a glass ball of vaccum to create light". That is DIFFERENT from commercial production of electric bulb. That bridge - between and idea and its production - takes a lot of initiative and faces a lot of roadblocks.
I will give you an example, and since you work for Government, I believe you will understand this easily.
I was in a recent meeting with administration officials along with our lobbyist and 4 other IV members. One of the issues, that is purely and administrative issue and doesnt need congressional act is In country visa revalidation. Prior to 2002, St. Louis had an office where you can mail your passport for restamping after H1 extensions and dont have to travel out of country. We asked them why that cant be restarted.(just like your style of why this cant be done and why that cant be done, its so simple and makes so much sense...bla bla bla). You know what their reply was..."We dont have a problem in doing that, and the issue is not security. Its just that if we reject someone, that someone is already in USA and would drag the rejection thru an immigration lawyer, file motions for re-appeal and re-consideration, and take us to court...and we have to fight that and spend money from DHS coffers to do that. If we reject someone's visa stamp in Mumbai consulate, we dont have to worry about it as that someone cannot take us to court and its cheaper for us".
Now, WHO would have thought about that? You see what I am saying. Here we are, speculating that they stopped visa restamping in USA (St. Louis) because of security reasons. And the real reason is - An attempt by DHS to save money on litigation it would face from rejections. Could you have known or imagined that? And who would have found the answer from IV forums. If I had posted that question here on forums, would I ever know that? No. It takes effort just to know the answers to questions. And then it takes some more effort to suggest more solutions and answers to their concerns. And then some more effort to get it done once they agree.
Its very easy to sit in your cubicle and spin brilliant ideas out of your head and say "Why cant that happen?" and "Why cant this be done like that and like that?".
And all your ideas are brilliant and they all have answers too. But sitting on IV forums and posting brilliant ideas isnt worth a bucket of warm spit if you are not willing to go out, travel and talk to people in authority and run your ideas and requests with them.
And yes, talking about donkeys and horses, the problem isnt that I am expecting wrong things from the wrong animals. The problem is that donkeys expect to be treated like horses not because they can run fast like horses but because they think they can run as fast as horses.
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reddymjm
06-13 06:51 PM
You should see the paper copy of receipts in your mail box today as I already got mine monday.Still waiting on my wifes. Was your at NSC too.. I wrote my name on the checks to differentiate. So I knew they were mine.
My attorney is not organized man. he is #$$%%%^. so worried whether he sent it or not. Is your wife working too by any chance.
I wrote the amount in words wrong, the numerics were right. so they returned my wifes application. I will resend it tomorrow.
My attorney is not organized man. he is #$$%%%^. so worried whether he sent it or not. Is your wife working too by any chance.
I wrote the amount in words wrong, the numerics were right. so they returned my wifes application. I will resend it tomorrow.
mantric
12-16 05:22 AM
here's my list. would love to hear others.
1. listen to music.
e.g. kishore songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjjK_37OpNM
sing !
2. read a good book.
e.g. Emerson essay on compensation.
"For everything you have missed you have gained something else."
http://www.rwe.org/works/Essays-1st_Series_03_Compensation.htm
i think it's a very powerful essay for life.
3. go to the gym. workout. jog. lift weights. play a game.
table tennis really helps.
resolve to be your fittest.
adversity must make us stronger, not weaker.
4. travel internationally
take a trip to some country you've never gone to before.
observe people's olympic struggles.
it's part of the human experience.
5. learn a new skill
something you've always wanted to do but did'nt get around to.
public speaking, dancing, singing...your choice.
take a class at a community college or a university.
6. go to temple or church or mosque.
make a deeper spiritual connection with God.
let him lift some of your burden.
i listened to Hari Om Sharan after many years and experienced a real sense of joy.
7. spend time learning about US government.
get to know more about how government works. why does house vote differently than the senate ?
get to know the 100 senators and 435 house reps. especially how they stand on legal immigration.
our friends on the other side of the fence have done us a favor by organizing this information
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/index.php3
just reverse the grades. consider approaching reps/senators with your situation.
8. learn from IV efforts of previous years
many skills were introduced which could have helped us. what can we learn from what failed ?
e.g. comprehensive immigration bill 2006. it passed in the senate but stalled in the house.
Gandhigiri did work this year. it was a major success story we should celebrate and learn from.
9. accept and enjoy the present.
accept the present moment. breathe.
enjoy nature - the sun, the moon, the heavens, fresh air and water. make new associations and friends.
experiencing these gifts of life is enough to keep one happy.
10. write it out.
record the feelings you are going through in writing.
capture the details.
what was your journey, your expectations, your highs and lows ?
you may see your struggles in a different light 10 years from now.
1. listen to music.
e.g. kishore songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjjK_37OpNM
sing !
2. read a good book.
e.g. Emerson essay on compensation.
"For everything you have missed you have gained something else."
http://www.rwe.org/works/Essays-1st_Series_03_Compensation.htm
i think it's a very powerful essay for life.
3. go to the gym. workout. jog. lift weights. play a game.
table tennis really helps.
resolve to be your fittest.
adversity must make us stronger, not weaker.
4. travel internationally
take a trip to some country you've never gone to before.
observe people's olympic struggles.
it's part of the human experience.
5. learn a new skill
something you've always wanted to do but did'nt get around to.
public speaking, dancing, singing...your choice.
take a class at a community college or a university.
6. go to temple or church or mosque.
make a deeper spiritual connection with God.
let him lift some of your burden.
i listened to Hari Om Sharan after many years and experienced a real sense of joy.
7. spend time learning about US government.
get to know more about how government works. why does house vote differently than the senate ?
get to know the 100 senators and 435 house reps. especially how they stand on legal immigration.
our friends on the other side of the fence have done us a favor by organizing this information
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/index.php3
just reverse the grades. consider approaching reps/senators with your situation.
8. learn from IV efforts of previous years
many skills were introduced which could have helped us. what can we learn from what failed ?
e.g. comprehensive immigration bill 2006. it passed in the senate but stalled in the house.
Gandhigiri did work this year. it was a major success story we should celebrate and learn from.
9. accept and enjoy the present.
accept the present moment. breathe.
enjoy nature - the sun, the moon, the heavens, fresh air and water. make new associations and friends.
experiencing these gifts of life is enough to keep one happy.
10. write it out.
record the feelings you are going through in writing.
capture the details.
what was your journey, your expectations, your highs and lows ?
you may see your struggles in a different light 10 years from now.
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ArunAntonio
07-09 03:01 PM
I think we have list of email ids of the reporters of various newspapers somewhere in the threads, if we post that list here people can mail them about this effort. Any one have that list?
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abracadabra102
05-10 09:59 AM
A suggestion about the contents of these emails/letters:
Why do we insist on proposing the solution to our problems? One person wants to remove country limits, another wants 5 year EADs, yet another wants to file 485 regardless of priority dates.
I see 2 problems with this:
1- The external world doesn't care or understand. Do you think the average CNN viewer understands what retrogression or priority dates are? For that matter does anyone in the White House?
2- This divides us by EB category, country, pre/post July '07, EB3 to EB2 porter etc.
In your letters please focus on the problem. If invited to the table we can propose solutions, but now is the time to highlight the problems and the potential impact it has on the US economy, our families, and communities.
Examples:
Impact on US economy:
- I have significant buying power, however I am unable to make any substantial longer term financial decisions due to immigration uncertainties. I may be asked to leave the country on a moment's notice. If there was some stability, I may be looking to invest in a home or a new business
Impact on our families:
- My spouse cannot work. She is qualified and capable. Yet due to the vagaries of the immigration system, she cannot pursue full time employment without significant additional paperwork
Impact on the communities:
- Most of us hold strong political and social views. The current system makes it untenable and in some cases illegal (like donating to political parties) to participate in the democratic process. In the grand machine that is the American democratic system, we are probably the only group of people that are taxed and yet have no representation whatsoever.
Maybe these points are not strong enough. But if they are not, then it is not worth anyone's time to pay any attention. Find the legal immigrant population's "we do the jobs Americans will not do" slogan!
-a
good job!
Why do we insist on proposing the solution to our problems? One person wants to remove country limits, another wants 5 year EADs, yet another wants to file 485 regardless of priority dates.
I see 2 problems with this:
1- The external world doesn't care or understand. Do you think the average CNN viewer understands what retrogression or priority dates are? For that matter does anyone in the White House?
2- This divides us by EB category, country, pre/post July '07, EB3 to EB2 porter etc.
In your letters please focus on the problem. If invited to the table we can propose solutions, but now is the time to highlight the problems and the potential impact it has on the US economy, our families, and communities.
Examples:
Impact on US economy:
- I have significant buying power, however I am unable to make any substantial longer term financial decisions due to immigration uncertainties. I may be asked to leave the country on a moment's notice. If there was some stability, I may be looking to invest in a home or a new business
Impact on our families:
- My spouse cannot work. She is qualified and capable. Yet due to the vagaries of the immigration system, she cannot pursue full time employment without significant additional paperwork
Impact on the communities:
- Most of us hold strong political and social views. The current system makes it untenable and in some cases illegal (like donating to political parties) to participate in the democratic process. In the grand machine that is the American democratic system, we are probably the only group of people that are taxed and yet have no representation whatsoever.
Maybe these points are not strong enough. But if they are not, then it is not worth anyone's time to pay any attention. Find the legal immigrant population's "we do the jobs Americans will not do" slogan!
-a
good job!
pappu
02-01 09:42 AM
IV effort needs 50 thousand dollars to make sure we can meet our immediate needs and also make a big impact via this advocacy day event. There are several large and small expenses like booking hotel conference room near Capitol hill for organizing the event/situation room, Organizing reception for lawmakers, their staffers, and administration officials to attend, creating advocacy packets for each appointment taken, advocacy firm fees for helping out with a large event like this etc. We can plan more ideas like Press briefing event, full page ads in national newspapers if we can have sufficient resources. This event will most certainly bring our issues to the national center stage and help us get much needed immigration relief in the months ahead. IV is starting this campaign ahead of time to better plan and execute our advocacy day (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html).
We are a small grassroots organization with a strong resolve and when we all pool in our energies, intelligence and resources; we can all collectively create wonders. We do not want our limited funds to stop us from going all out. Despite our full time jobs, IV core is committed to work harder and we are happy to have the asset of a large IV community to support us in this mammoth task.
This post is to urge everyone to come forward and help yourself in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you cannot make it to DC due to personal or professional reasons then do show your admiration for our effort. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort. Times are tough for any immigration relief and in tough times we have to work harder to get anything done. Your contribution, words of support and enthusiasm helps everybody to maintain higher level of motivation which is so important for this kind of community effort. It is up to each member if you feel from your heart to contribute towards this cause. If you decide to contribute, you can either easily contribute via our website page (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) or you could send us a check. We suggest individual contributions of $50/$100 to cover the cost of this event.
Checks can be mailed to
Immigration Voice
3561 Homestead Rd #375
Santa Clara, CA 95051
We request each and every member reading this post to please contribute and post your donation amount on this thread for tracking purposes. We will continue to post updates that will make us all feel proud and part of this organization. Thank you for your support. Please keep it up.
Volunteers who want to keep track of the contributions and provide encouragement, please contact me.
Poster to spread the word.. (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a7/Myposter.pdf)
Thanks
Team Immigration Voice
We are a small grassroots organization with a strong resolve and when we all pool in our energies, intelligence and resources; we can all collectively create wonders. We do not want our limited funds to stop us from going all out. Despite our full time jobs, IV core is committed to work harder and we are happy to have the asset of a large IV community to support us in this mammoth task.
This post is to urge everyone to come forward and help yourself in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you cannot make it to DC due to personal or professional reasons then do show your admiration for our effort. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort. Times are tough for any immigration relief and in tough times we have to work harder to get anything done. Your contribution, words of support and enthusiasm helps everybody to maintain higher level of motivation which is so important for this kind of community effort. It is up to each member if you feel from your heart to contribute towards this cause. If you decide to contribute, you can either easily contribute via our website page (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) or you could send us a check. We suggest individual contributions of $50/$100 to cover the cost of this event.
Checks can be mailed to
Immigration Voice
3561 Homestead Rd #375
Santa Clara, CA 95051
We request each and every member reading this post to please contribute and post your donation amount on this thread for tracking purposes. We will continue to post updates that will make us all feel proud and part of this organization. Thank you for your support. Please keep it up.
Volunteers who want to keep track of the contributions and provide encouragement, please contact me.
Poster to spread the word.. (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a7/Myposter.pdf)
Thanks
Team Immigration Voice
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chapper
08-13 04:38 PM
Congrats! Can you please tell us where your I140 was approved from. Are the checks cashed?
Rcvd Receipt Notice from my Attorney.
Filed: July 2nd
PD: Jan 2006
I-140 Apporved: Nov 2006
Receipt Date: 8/10/2007 (Received 8/13 Today)
Rcvd Receipt Notice from my Attorney.
Filed: July 2nd
PD: Jan 2006
I-140 Apporved: Nov 2006
Receipt Date: 8/10/2007 (Received 8/13 Today)
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waitforgc123
09-05 09:54 PM
Mine was received on July 3rd, R Williams 9:03 AM - Still waiting no receipt no cashing of check.
I will share with you all as soon as I hear of some progress on this front.
thanks
PD - Apr 06
EB2
I will share with you all as soon as I hear of some progress on this front.
thanks
PD - Apr 06
EB2
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akhilmahajan
02-26 10:27 PM
Thanks a lot everyone.
Grand Total - $2062
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Grand Total - $2062
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
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gauravster
07-08 04:30 PM
You are incorrect on multiple accounts.
But, before going there, let me ask you this. What is your legal reasoning to dispute the case you have mentioned?
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The legal reasoning is "Civil Rights Act of 1964" which applies to all individuals employed by a US employer in the US and to US citizens employed by US employers outside the US.
But, before going there, let me ask you this. What is your legal reasoning to dispute the case you have mentioned?
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The legal reasoning is "Civil Rights Act of 1964" which applies to all individuals employed by a US employer in the US and to US citizens employed by US employers outside the US.
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pappu
02-01 09:42 AM
IV effort needs 50 thousand dollars to make sure we can meet our immediate needs and also make a big impact via this advocacy day event. There are several large and small expenses like booking hotel conference room near Capitol hill for organizing the event/situation room, Organizing reception for lawmakers, their staffers, and administration officials to attend, creating advocacy packets for each appointment taken, advocacy firm fees for helping out with a large event like this etc. We can plan more ideas like Press briefing event, full page ads in national newspapers if we can have sufficient resources. This event will most certainly bring our issues to the national center stage and help us get much needed immigration relief in the months ahead. IV is starting this campaign ahead of time to better plan and execute our advocacy day (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html).
We are a small grassroots organization with a strong resolve and when we all pool in our energies, intelligence and resources; we can all collectively create wonders. We do not want our limited funds to stop us from going all out. Despite our full time jobs, IV core is committed to work harder and we are happy to have the asset of a large IV community to support us in this mammoth task.
This post is to urge everyone to come forward and help yourself in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you cannot make it to DC due to personal or professional reasons then do show your admiration for our effort. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort. Times are tough for any immigration relief and in tough times we have to work harder to get anything done. Your contribution, words of support and enthusiasm helps everybody to maintain higher level of motivation which is so important for this kind of community effort. It is up to each member if you feel from your heart to contribute towards this cause. If you decide to contribute, you can either easily contribute via our website page (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) or you could send us a check. We suggest individual contributions of $50/$100 to cover the cost of this event.
Checks can be mailed to
Immigration Voice
3561 Homestead Rd #375
Santa Clara, CA 95051
We request each and every member reading this post to please contribute and post your donation amount on this thread for tracking purposes. We will continue to post updates that will make us all feel proud and part of this organization. Thank you for your support. Please keep it up.
Volunteers who want to keep track of the contributions and provide encouragement, please contact me.
Poster to spread the word.. (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a7/Myposter.pdf)
Thanks
Team Immigration Voice
We are a small grassroots organization with a strong resolve and when we all pool in our energies, intelligence and resources; we can all collectively create wonders. We do not want our limited funds to stop us from going all out. Despite our full time jobs, IV core is committed to work harder and we are happy to have the asset of a large IV community to support us in this mammoth task.
This post is to urge everyone to come forward and help yourself in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you cannot make it to DC due to personal or professional reasons then do show your admiration for our effort. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort. Times are tough for any immigration relief and in tough times we have to work harder to get anything done. Your contribution, words of support and enthusiasm helps everybody to maintain higher level of motivation which is so important for this kind of community effort. It is up to each member if you feel from your heart to contribute towards this cause. If you decide to contribute, you can either easily contribute via our website page (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) or you could send us a check. We suggest individual contributions of $50/$100 to cover the cost of this event.
Checks can be mailed to
Immigration Voice
3561 Homestead Rd #375
Santa Clara, CA 95051
We request each and every member reading this post to please contribute and post your donation amount on this thread for tracking purposes. We will continue to post updates that will make us all feel proud and part of this organization. Thank you for your support. Please keep it up.
Volunteers who want to keep track of the contributions and provide encouragement, please contact me.
Poster to spread the word.. (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a7/Myposter.pdf)
Thanks
Team Immigration Voice
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vivaforever
09-03 09:40 AM
Folks,
I got card production email on 19th night (20th) August... got approval email on 22nd . Received welcome notice physical mail on 25th August-- So far not received Green cards nor Approval notice. As per email received it says -- Approval was mailed on 22nd AUgust. Anybody in same boat ??
Guys Welcome notice and approval are same thing !
I got card production email on 19th night (20th) August... got approval email on 22nd . Received welcome notice physical mail on 25th August-- So far not received Green cards nor Approval notice. As per email received it says -- Approval was mailed on 22nd AUgust. Anybody in same boat ??
Guys Welcome notice and approval are same thing !
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knnmbd
05-03 12:39 PM
GreeNever,
The only clarification I would make over Knnmbd's interpretation is that as long as you have a US master's degree or higher, the "3 years work experience in a related field" restriction will not apply. If you read section 201 carefully, you will see that the difference between items 1 and 2 is that item 1 refers to US advanced degree holders while item 2 refers to advanced degree holders (resumably non-US educated). The 3 year restriction only applies to those who fall into item #2.
So, if
a) you have a MS from a US university, you and your immediate family (spouse and minor children) will not be subject to the 3 years restriction and will be exempt from the Visa Cap
b) you have a masters or higher from an acredited non-US university, then the Visa Cap will not apply to you and your family, but you shouldd have worked in the US in a "related" field for 3 years.
My question to everyone:
Will folks in section 201 be required to get a Labor certification? If not, then this will provide relief to a lot of us stuck in the BECs.
Knowledgeable folks, please comment.
REMINDER: Any such bill is still MANY months away from seeing the light of day, if at all. BUT, favorable bills such as these give us hope.
GreeNever,
Thanks for the correction. U.S Master's in STEM means there is no need for the 3 years experience.
With regard to LC, there was some talk in PACE and TALENT of a blanket LC for U.S degree in STEM, but that seems to me missing here. But in the larger context of things, who really cares if with a U.S M.S degree you need to just go through PERM and then you are all set without the hassle( or should I say torture) of the retrogression. This is a �WIN WIN� situation for a lot of people if SKIL goes through.
There is no surprise as to why the Advance degree + 3 years (or no 3 years required in case the advance degree is from a U.S university) clause has found its way into PACE, TALENT, SKIL and was not to mention the failed CIR bill. The bottom line is that there is a sudden urgency to reintroduce the charm of pursuing higher education in the U.S. This benefits the U.S in many ways; universities get more international students paying out of state tuition (good for them specially b�cos the war effort has sucked all resources from educational institutions) and rekindle the brain drain from India and China in the form of researchers and engineers who pursue advance degrees and remain to work in the U.S( it will be surprising if there is no one looking at the booming economies of Asian countries mainly due to number of graduation engineers). So it�s a winning situation for both the U.S to attract smart people, make them spend a �lot� of money in paying tuition in U.S schools and hey what the hell give them a GC to live and work here permanently instead of them heading back home to do great things there.
It works for every one so that�s just great.
The only clarification I would make over Knnmbd's interpretation is that as long as you have a US master's degree or higher, the "3 years work experience in a related field" restriction will not apply. If you read section 201 carefully, you will see that the difference between items 1 and 2 is that item 1 refers to US advanced degree holders while item 2 refers to advanced degree holders (resumably non-US educated). The 3 year restriction only applies to those who fall into item #2.
So, if
a) you have a MS from a US university, you and your immediate family (spouse and minor children) will not be subject to the 3 years restriction and will be exempt from the Visa Cap
b) you have a masters or higher from an acredited non-US university, then the Visa Cap will not apply to you and your family, but you shouldd have worked in the US in a "related" field for 3 years.
My question to everyone:
Will folks in section 201 be required to get a Labor certification? If not, then this will provide relief to a lot of us stuck in the BECs.
Knowledgeable folks, please comment.
REMINDER: Any such bill is still MANY months away from seeing the light of day, if at all. BUT, favorable bills such as these give us hope.
GreeNever,
Thanks for the correction. U.S Master's in STEM means there is no need for the 3 years experience.
With regard to LC, there was some talk in PACE and TALENT of a blanket LC for U.S degree in STEM, but that seems to me missing here. But in the larger context of things, who really cares if with a U.S M.S degree you need to just go through PERM and then you are all set without the hassle( or should I say torture) of the retrogression. This is a �WIN WIN� situation for a lot of people if SKIL goes through.
There is no surprise as to why the Advance degree + 3 years (or no 3 years required in case the advance degree is from a U.S university) clause has found its way into PACE, TALENT, SKIL and was not to mention the failed CIR bill. The bottom line is that there is a sudden urgency to reintroduce the charm of pursuing higher education in the U.S. This benefits the U.S in many ways; universities get more international students paying out of state tuition (good for them specially b�cos the war effort has sucked all resources from educational institutions) and rekindle the brain drain from India and China in the form of researchers and engineers who pursue advance degrees and remain to work in the U.S( it will be surprising if there is no one looking at the booming economies of Asian countries mainly due to number of graduation engineers). So it�s a winning situation for both the U.S to attract smart people, make them spend a �lot� of money in paying tuition in U.S schools and hey what the hell give them a GC to live and work here permanently instead of them heading back home to do great things there.
It works for every one so that�s just great.
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nat23
10-25 12:55 PM
Republicans want nothing to do with CIR . SKILL bill is out there but the Republicans wouldnt want to touch that topic as they would like to help the President with important issues like "spending" keeping in mind that he wouldnt have the support of the Congress that he used to enjoy for the rest of his term. This means nothing in the lame-duck session.
Democrats on the other hand (if they have the House) wouldnt want "stop-gap" measure for immigration. They would want to go the whole 9 yards keeping the 2008 Presidential elections in mind. This means we would have to wait till the next Congress resumes office.
Any comments ??
Democrats on the other hand (if they have the House) wouldnt want "stop-gap" measure for immigration. They would want to go the whole 9 yards keeping the 2008 Presidential elections in mind. This means we would have to wait till the next Congress resumes office.
Any comments ??
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pappu
10-17 02:21 PM
you made two critical assumptions to support your claim:
1) Since responses and postings of key members are sparse, they are working day and night on getting the immigration reforms through
2) If key members post on these forums, they will necessarily post half baked news which causes excitement.
Apparently you completely missed the point. I am asking core members to participate in discussion on these forums, not to put sensational headlines that excites people. Hope that helps.
IV is making efforts to prepare for the coming coming months. It involves but not limited to funding drive to sustain and grow efforts, membership drive to grow in size and have impact of numbers, generating awareness and building support via media articles. Speculating will not help much. Pls. do participate in these drives in order to build momentum for the coming months and we will all have better chances for any legislative change. We are all in this together and we all need to work hard to enable a change
1) Since responses and postings of key members are sparse, they are working day and night on getting the immigration reforms through
2) If key members post on these forums, they will necessarily post half baked news which causes excitement.
Apparently you completely missed the point. I am asking core members to participate in discussion on these forums, not to put sensational headlines that excites people. Hope that helps.
IV is making efforts to prepare for the coming coming months. It involves but not limited to funding drive to sustain and grow efforts, membership drive to grow in size and have impact of numbers, generating awareness and building support via media articles. Speculating will not help much. Pls. do participate in these drives in order to build momentum for the coming months and we will all have better chances for any legislative change. We are all in this together and we all need to work hard to enable a change
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eb3_nepa
08-18 02:35 PM
SunnySurya,
There is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION of contacting state chapter heads. State chapter heads are not your personal lackeys. They are members who receive instructions from the IV core team to take on initiatives.
This is NOT an initiative that the ENTIRE IV community supports and hence will NOT be taken up by state chapter heads. The key here is UNITY UNITY UNITY. You have chosen to break the FIRST CODE of IV ethics and that is UNITY.
Lastly, it is NOT upto YOU to decide what is ethical and unethical. It is upto the CORE team. So please consult with the core team before you make up the rules.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION of contacting state chapter heads. State chapter heads are not your personal lackeys. They are members who receive instructions from the IV core team to take on initiatives.
This is NOT an initiative that the ENTIRE IV community supports and hence will NOT be taken up by state chapter heads. The key here is UNITY UNITY UNITY. You have chosen to break the FIRST CODE of IV ethics and that is UNITY.
Lastly, it is NOT upto YOU to decide what is ethical and unethical. It is upto the CORE team. So please consult with the core team before you make up the rules.
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BharatPremi
11-21 09:18 PM
Mehul
I can more than understand what you are going through right now. I was diagnosed with cancer ten months after coming to the US. I am also the principal applicant and of course it was terrifying. I have no idea what your prognosis is or the type of cancer and do not need to know. However, I live in Indiana and the doctors here managed to save Lance Armstrong. He was sent here from Texas. I am now a six year survivor.
I am now undergoing tests for a possible second cancer diagnosis seven years later and still no green card for my family. Hoping for one for my husband in the New Year. My son aged out and is on a student visa. I live each day realizing this is not a dress rehearsal and have to believe everything will be OK and I have absolutely no control over what the future holds.
I know only too well how shell shocked you are right now but you have to have faith that things will work out how they are meant to. Adversity can have a silver lining.
Wishing you all the best in your treatment plan. You need to concentrate on your health right now.
Our prayers are with you and your family as well. May God bless both you and Mehul and give strength fighting this. Best Luck.
I can more than understand what you are going through right now. I was diagnosed with cancer ten months after coming to the US. I am also the principal applicant and of course it was terrifying. I have no idea what your prognosis is or the type of cancer and do not need to know. However, I live in Indiana and the doctors here managed to save Lance Armstrong. He was sent here from Texas. I am now a six year survivor.
I am now undergoing tests for a possible second cancer diagnosis seven years later and still no green card for my family. Hoping for one for my husband in the New Year. My son aged out and is on a student visa. I live each day realizing this is not a dress rehearsal and have to believe everything will be OK and I have absolutely no control over what the future holds.
I know only too well how shell shocked you are right now but you have to have faith that things will work out how they are meant to. Adversity can have a silver lining.
Wishing you all the best in your treatment plan. You need to concentrate on your health right now.
Our prayers are with you and your family as well. May God bless both you and Mehul and give strength fighting this. Best Luck.
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Redeye
08-18 03:36 PM
funny thing, this SunnySurya guy happens to be from a small consulting company with 8 people out of which everyone got audited and at one point he says he does not know if his application is Eb3 or Eb2 and he is trying to figure it out.
Then he comes with filing a lawsuit against porting from EB3 to EB2
Funny guy, once you get your hand in the cookie jar you want no one near it eh?
What are you really afraid of?
I will help you in this but do us all a favor and don't reply to any more messages....
Then he comes with filing a lawsuit against porting from EB3 to EB2
Funny guy, once you get your hand in the cookie jar you want no one near it eh?
What are you really afraid of?
I will help you in this but do us all a favor and don't reply to any more messages....
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apahilaj
01-15 07:29 PM
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caliducas
09-27 05:13 PM
Our EAD has been approved - self and spouse.
dc2007
12-17 12:57 PM
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
Dear,
What are you doing for 7 years in US if you have not studied here and just started career ? or I have mis-understood what you said above?
But to me if you are not saving some money while in US, its not worth it staying here, away from family/friends.
Good Luck
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
Dear,
What are you doing for 7 years in US if you have not studied here and just started career ? or I have mis-understood what you said above?
But to me if you are not saving some money while in US, its not worth it staying here, away from family/friends.
Good Luck
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